This all is really about more than just some labels for mentalities and situational responses. It is about authentic self, soul mates, living outside of constructs of mind, self-substantiation, and relationships.
To explain the spirit realm to someone that has never been out of body, to speak of life beyond the perceived bondage of physical reality, or to express ‘genuineness’ to ‘zombies’ is akin to drinking all the water in the ocean with a fork.
There are quite a few base requirements to comprehend what I am trying to convey, and most all of them have been written about before, and surely in a better way than I could attempt to do here.
Here’s a few books/authors/ideas that should be comprehended
- Arno Gruen – Insanity of Normality
- Celestine Prophecy – Basically the 4 control Dramas
- Herman Hesse -Siddhartha
- Architects of Control – Michael Tsarion
- A fundamental understanding of how Capitalism and economies based on monetary currency apply artificial forces, which induce disease on all levels of the planet – socially, mentally, physically
- There isn’t just one mind, but many.
- There are many more, but I’ll address them below
There is also the dilemma in trying to express through an incomplete english language, which makes words so able to misconstrued.
To reiterate from my last post.
All people display forms of mental health expressions in everyday life. It is a matter of to what degree. Labeling someone as a narcissist, a psychopath, a libertarian, a republican…whatever it may be, in most cases is only a tendency people display. That tendency can be considered and cultivated if someone considers it a ‘good’ quality. In other ways, it can be reduced or eliminated if considered a ‘bad’ quality.
Changing gears here, but it seems where it should be applied.
While time is not linear, but a frequency or some may say cyclical, we can consider that most people have a linear view of time and will use that as a ‘pushing/pulling’ of mental depressions, usually stemming from the past, and anxieties that put pressure from the future.
In the present moment of what people see as linear time, there is their true authentic self, just sitting, radiating life. Then their ‘minds’ kick in and fuel something. These ‘minds’ can be seen as the left and right brain, the stomach, and the hive minds. The mind of self-preservation, the mind of immediate surroundings, the mind of family, the mind of nation, the mind of world, the cosmic mind…
Let me try to further that idea after we consider philosophies (which are mind generated, so are intrinsically ‘illusory’ or ‘false’) These philosophies are listed here
Whether most people know it or not, they almost always lean towards Stoicism, which by obvious connection includes Epicurianism and Hedonism, but to much less degrees. This is not only default by nature, but also instilled through culture generators such as media and schools. This in turn feeds into Noam Chompsky’s work of Manufacturing Consent and fear and consumption culture. This is really a lot to get into and would be a separate paper all together, but nonetheless, it is still vital to at least understand that fears of future outcomes call for the mind and body to preserve itself through consuming something, whether it be information or physical goods.
The most basic idea of self-preservation is obvious, but it is convoluted because people really have a skewed view of self. The ideas of the mind and future ‘good/bad’ cloud what may be considered ‘best’ in self-interest.
These self interests are again molded by hive minds. You don’t end up buying a motorcycle, even though you ‘desire’ one because your family will bitch you out for having one and you must make a choice as to your ‘mind’ being yours or your families…and after all they have your ‘best’ interest and ‘life’ to be concerned for.
Sitting there, you are overcome with grief or pain or suffering. And, being the buddhist, that everyone is at heart, you’d like to relieve the suffering. That is the number one motivation for everyone. Call it Stoicism or Buddhism or just plain self-preservation, it doesn’t matter.
So, what is the response to suffering. Alleviate it. That suffering could be coming from fear of a friend of family member, or physical trauma, or any number of influxes of stimuli. We all want to feel good, happy, powerful and loved. And, if you don’t ‘feel’ like we have those things at all times, we ‘seek’ it. We seek it through maybe sex, a drink, cigarettes, drugs of all sorts, yoga, TV, playing a game…there are all sorts of things that may be done to at least escape or avoid pain or perceived future pains, or possibly feel ‘better’ and more ‘self’ for at least a moment. These are all normal responses.
Sometimes people have repressed or unknown trauma, or live in pain daily that has become numbed. Consider someone with a limp that has had it for years and notices it no more. Or, someone with a traumatic brain injury, or intestinal disorder. They have no idea, the blind spot is there, it is like trying to turn around and see the back of your head.
Now when we try to identify cultures influence, and really any form of domination/submissive system of control (Kings/School/Church/Capitalism)….really most forms of societal structures, we see that health, expression, creativity and actual co-existence of equality/equanimity within a society is nearly impossible.
There are 99% of sick people in sick societies with sick minds and sick bodies being roped along a path by those same dis-eased people. So, surely the more healthy one becomes, the more ‘crazy/insane’ they come across as.
Again, I’ll quote Jiddu Krishnamurti, “it is NO measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society”
These ‘insane’ people are often labeled schizophrenic. There is a great video called Schizophrenic or Shaman by Terrence Mckenna. Here. You must watch that.
The basic idea is that these ‘crazy’ people just have a foot or mind in the spiritual world, and instead of assisting them and supporting them, we treat them like they are deranged and broken and throw them in a white room.
What am I getting at here as it comes to mental health and Narcissism and Psychopathic tendencies? What does this have to do with Soul groups and Soul mates, Twin flame and relationships with people?
We get into our heads so often, that the past and future which don’t exist, the family that isn’t living our life and existence exhibit controls over that mind, and the governments and corporations and media who also put stressors on peoples minds. We then can’t act out our truth in our heart and soul.
We go out and try to find those true organic connections, and they are few and far between. When we do go out there, we put on masks of narcissism and go through psychopathic behavior rituals, and play out sociopath dramas, so that we may appear to play this human game and not look too odd.
Then we find our soul groups and if we are super lucky we find our mate and twin flame. I did. The dilemma is that those people in your soul group and your soul mate might be very forgetful and fearful. They may have never been out of body or have knowledge of those other realms and ‘who’ they are.
Then there are these past traumas and control levers in the mind and body that say no to the heart and soul and the truth that is ‘felt’ as an experience. That experience fades away, and the mind says, it wasn’t ‘true’. This is not fanciful or esoteric. It is beyond that feeling of seeing and playing with a puppy. It is contentment, harmony, comfort and excitement all in one. The two sides of yin and yang within two peoples auric fields connected and everything was as it should be.
This isn’t the feeling you have around a best friend. This isn’t the feeling of having great sex with someone. CS Lewis wrote a book called the 4 types of love. I think there are more, but for the sake of ease, they are friendship, romantic, affection, and god. It is none of those and all of them. It is somewhat all encompassing like a god love, but not as trivial and basic as sexual. A twin flame and soul mate, it is just very obvious right away and it is felt beyond the physical and others can see it. Everyone could notice it when we weren’t acting out foolish games from our heads – from out dramas and traumas.
We both acted out control dramas and psychopathic/narcissistic control patterns at times, and the material world and all of its connections to perception of time allowed us to live in duality plane and our minds got in the way and shut off the connection to our heart and soul.
To further elucidate. I had a knee problem for a month, which in turn caused me a lot of depression. It also, took away our ‘balance’, that is our ability to see each other eye to eye or walk together, literally and figuratively. I was immobile and had dependence on her, while we couldn’t even commune physically with our spirits. She got upset and became aloof and overburdened along with Disney Princess Programming and victim mentality, while I became upset from my depression and immobility and acted out on my anger about her aloofness.
Even further, there isn’t a blaming of her or her narcissistic and aloof tendencies because I am aware of my power and intensity and the things I did to contribute to some of her feelings as well. In one respect, it was that I am smarter than I acted and I acted out psychopathic behaviors of a drunken fool and caused embarrassment. I am more powerful than that, but then having an injury and becoming a shell of my self and being depressed that I couldn’t care for the person I love so deeply and completely, left with with guilt and anger and hopelessness.
I didn’t act as my highest self. Nor has she always. It’s just in knowing that relationships are work, and forgiveness that results in even more connection and joy and fun and playfulness of our actual spirit selves. We shed our minds together by examining incongruent behaviors that arised out of an unhealthy mind. By that, we get rid of unwanted feelings and baggage of traumas and continually find a place closer to center of our heart and soul.
I know that as truth because I feel it. I know it because I could smell her, and smell is the most primordial source of knowledge. I know because I feel other people too, and know of their place and their archetype in my life.
We were living out of our minds. I lost self-worth and self-confidence and displayed it. She seen me as unable to support her in anyway and imagined a future of only this current pain and displeasure. I didn’t have the power while I was depressed to live out or speak out a positive future, and she didn’t have the energy to think the flame was worth the candle either.
This doesn’t change that we are soul mates and twin flames. There are just waaaaay too many strange coincidences and moments of complete interconnectedness.
This power struggle game exists for every relationship. It has to do with feeling empty and without energy in your system, and how you express that energy when you have it. Some people don’t like too much power or energy coursing through their system so they leak it out or give it to others. The saying power corrupts and absolute power absolutely corrupts has been repeated to us. The poor, have-not complex is repeated us. There is much here too.
I play out these power struggles with other people too. The 4 control drams from the Celestine Prophecy. Aloof, Intimidators, poor-me’s, Interrogator.
Everyone uses these just as much as those dynamics of narcissism or psychopathy. They are intertwined. Everyone says they want power, but they don’t know what to do with it when they get too much, and they use those tools to try and harvest power.
Some of us use up or displace our power through drinking, others through working 6o hours a week until exhaustion. When we have no power we thirst for it and try to obtain it, but when we obtain it, it is exciting to use it for a bit, but it can become a burden so we ‘blow our wad’. Mentally or financially or spiritually, it doesn’t matter.
Then there is the general case of self-loathing and hate that creeps up from the past, a view of unworthiness. This can be displayed by projecting onto others, our values and disgusts with our own self. This happens often.
When you mix all of this together you find the mind and body and spirit in conflict and people act out, or project self-worth onto others. Sometimes, actual help is viewed as harm, and sometimes the other way around.
So, we all from moment to moment try our best to be our best version of self and acquire energy for self-substantiation, but have a brain that is split with all sorts of fears, anxieties and depressions and the result is one or both parties acting out or projecting those fears and control issues on each other.
At the heart of everyone, we are all worthy and equal. But in our minds, and stomachs and imaginations, we see things skewed, and try to find our own personal power. When we can’t we either vampire it from others, or we just throw it all away due to views of unworthiness. Simple version of the Control Dramas
What’s the solution? At the very least, it is understanding that they exist, so that we may navigate them easier, until they vanish completely.
The ultimate goal is to be more in the present moment so that upon death we have observed and interacted with the universe enough to take those memories through death, and wake up more experienced than we were last lifetime. So, that we may wake our other versions of self up too, and we can live collectively beyond the sun while choosing and experiencing new life as we see fit, rather than blindly fumbling through these lifetimes, relearning lessons and not improving.
To address some of your words revengestar…
I’ve never seen the good/bad guy dynamic, I mean, I know that we are told it exists and we live in a dual world, but it’s just not the whole truth to it. I see good/better/best.
As far as the relationship to earthlings and the planet as a whole, there is nothing better than communication…with a caveat…that communication must come from a place outside the mind, maybe the heart, maybe the soul…but at least with feelings.
Feelings and emotions are different. Feelings are getting kicked in the nuts – emotions are how you ‘think you feel’ about the person or event of getting kicked in the balls.
Emotions are what the media and our own mind play out to gain leverage and control and I suppose in your case – find revenge. Maybe in the mind, it has been about getting back at or leveling the table, but in the heart/spirit/soul it has only been about organic feelings and co-dependency, like humans and trees (oxygen and carbon dioxide), really the whole planet and humans.
Cycling that back to relationships and narcissist/psychopathic behaviors, again it is about tendencies and communication and openness that they exist, and knowledge of ways to get beyond them, beyond mind games, and how to play inside the heart in a world full of earthlings that are expressing past traumas and acting out future fears in the present time.
I don’t know if you’ve read anything else I’ve read, but I normally don’t dive into this stuff, although everything I write about is the ‘architects’ of control and language and learning processes – all from a very esoteric and occult level. But, they are the fundamental reasons why people play out these scenarios in earth time as domination/submission, narcissist/psychopath, fear and consumption, reliance over self-sufficiency. I only wrote those couple jumbled posts as some small outlet to extreme depression and feeling of isolation and loneliness, and more specifically because of empathic things that have drained me – I let them, but nonetheless it occurs. This empathy thing isn’t really that I know of the mental guards that this person had, but that I am highly sensitive and can feel for what she has problems of self-worth, self-respect, narcissism victim mentality, princess programming etc…
My feeling that I am a victim to her and all i noted above isn’t the issue. I don’t feel victimized by it, just extremely sad for not just my ‘loss’ but for her ‘loss’ and issues as well. I don’t know about the rest of the pages you read on empaths blaming narcissists, but I am not of that mindset. Mainly due to seeing the issue as a whole system approach of mind and all of what I put forth above.
Even further, there isn’t blaming her or narcissism because I am aware of my power and intensity and the things I did to contribute to some of her feelings as well. In one respect, it was that I am smarter than I acted, and more powerful, but then having an injury and becoming a shell of my self and being depressed that I couldn’t care for the person I love so deeply and completely left with with guilt and anger.
Yeah, there is quite a bit of spiritual and ‘after earth/death’ coating the whole thing, but I’ve been out of body and have no reservations about what my spirit is and what I can do with it out of the confines of the body. It is a matter of unification of both to allow the mind rest, and allow more heart energy to manifest a more balanced and harmonious earth.
Sure, it sounds all gobblydeegook but it does seem to me that the path of health and healing on this planet involves getting people to discover the architects of control, the archons and the media that overwhelm the mind through words and symbols to act out their plans rather than the plan of your future spirit self.
That may seem disjointed from what we were discussing, but it is the absolute underpinning of peoples inability to commune in loving ways at all times and cause destructive tendencies. When you see it and observe it, you learn to put yourself into it and shine some light on the BS (belief systems) for people and get the fuck out before it drains you and you act out of lower baser BS.
Most people are just stuck in the base chakra, or more laymen, they just wanna eat fuck and sleep. Or, you have space cadets that think the world is all namaste but dismiss the world and physical plane altogether. So as a bridge to that, as an empath, whatever you want to call it – the ability to put yourself around princes or the paupers and let them see a novel idea and then getting out before you are overwhelmed by their mental tendencies is the goal. Whether it is for you, something as simple as a single human relationship, and not some crazy global conspiracy with aliens and languages of babel like i may see it, the goal is quite the same – that is to find some authentic human connection.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion.